the view of “Hesni Damascene” about “ibn Taymiyyah”
presenter:
we’re at your and Ayatollah QAZVINIE’s service with the program “Habl al-Matin”. I offer my condolence on the occasion of the martyrdom of Imam “Sadiq” [AS].
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
I say hello to dear, respectable viewers and wish them prosperity. I condole the anniversary of the martyrdom of Imam “Sadiq” [AS] the chief of Shia sect and the pattern of Shiism to Imam “Mahdi” [AS] and all patrons of Shiite imams [AS].
This is the second program that we’re talking to people from “Velayat global network” studio in north of “California”.
Presenter:
Dear master, discussion of our last program was about the view of Sunni scholars about “Ibn Taymiyyah”. Please talk about the opinion of “Hesni Damascus” {Shafi’i” famous scholar}, has said about “Ibn Taymiyyah”.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
Mr. “Hesni Damascene” is amongst famous “Shafi’i” scholars and is from “Syria”, “Kheir al-ddin Zerkuly” says about him:
Mr. “Hesni Damascene” is imam, Faqih leader and pious and has many compilations. One of his books is “repelling the doubt “.
“Zerkuli”, Al-a’alam
Mr. “Shukani” says about him in the book “al-Badr al-Tale’” v 1, p 166:
Despite of people weren’t informed, but his funeral procession was so crowded that other than god nobody knew their number.
Mr. “Hesni Damascene” has comprehensive book about reviewing the ideas of “Ibn Taymiyyah”, he says: not only he’s not the sea of knowledge but he’s infidel.
وأن إبن تيمية الذي كان يوصف بأنه بحر في العلم لا يستغرب فيه ما قاله بعض الأئمة عنه من أنه زنديق مطلق وسبب قوله ذلك أنه تتبع كلامه فلم يقف له على اعتقاد حتى أنه في مواضع عديدة يكفر فرقة ويضللها وفي آخر يعتقد ما قالته أو بعضه مع أن كتبه مشحونة بالتشبيه والتجسيم والإشارة إلى الإزدراء بالنبي ص والشيخين وتكفير عبد الله بن عباس رضي الله عنه وأنه من الملحدين وجعل عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنهما من المجرمين وأنه ضال مبتدع ذكر ذلك في كتاب له سماه الصراط المستقيم والرد على أهل الجحيم.
Some of people say that he’s the sea of knowledge, no wondering that one of the Sunni leaders have said about him: “Ibn Tayimayyah” is infidel, the reason that he calls him ungodly and pagan is that “Ibn Taymiyyah” has excommunicate a group in his books on numerous occasion but in another place he himself has discussed that issue as a certain belief, the same issue that he knows, for instance, Shia or Sunni infidel because of that issue.
His books are filled with likening god almighty to the creatures and god’ corporality and insulting prophet [PBUH] and even insulting “Abu-Bakr” and “Umar” and “Abdullah bin Abbas” commination saying that he’s infidel. He’s said about “Abdullah bin Umar”: he’s amongst criminals and is deceptive and heretic.
These phrases that “Ibn Taymiyyah” has said about god almighty and prophet [PBUH] and others, he’s said all of them in the books “direct path” and “reply to the people of the hell”. “Hesni Damascene” says: sometimes I came across phrases that would show that he believes that quadruplet imams {Abu Hanifah, Shafi’i, Ahmad ibn Hanbal and Malik} are infidel.
Some have said: +++
“Hesni Damascene”, repelling the doubt, v 1, p 64
He says as well:
أن من توجه إلى قبر سيد الأولين والآخرين ص وتوسل به في حاجة الإستسقاء أو غيرها يصير بذلك ظالما ضالا مشركا كافرا
هذا شيء تقشعر منه الأبدان ولم نسمع أحدا فاه بل ولا رمز إليه في زمن من الأزمان ولا بلد من البلدان قبل زنديق حران قاتله الله عزوجل وقد فعل جعل الزنديق الجاهل الجامد قصة عمر رضي الله عنه دعامة للتوصل بها إلى خبث طويته في الإزدراء بسيد الأولين والآخرين وأكرم السابقين واللاحقين وحط رتبته في حياته وإن جاهه وحرمته ورسالته وغير ذلك زال بموته وذلك منه كفر بيقين وزندقة محققة ....
Anyone who resorts to the grave of prophet [PBUH] whether it’s about asking rain or anything else, he’ll be oppressor, polytheist, deceptive and infidel.
This sentence said by “Ibn Taymmiyah” shakes our body, no one has said this boldly sentence of infidel “Ibn Taymiyyah”, no one has even mentioned it before “Ibn Taymiyyah”, May god annihilate him.
“Ibn Taymiyyah” this infidel and ignorant person has used of the story of Umar’s resorting for his dirty intentions to insult the lord of those of ancient times and those of later time, prophet Muhammad [PBUH] and to remove prophet’s [PBUH] position at his living time, while the sanctity, position and the prophecy of prophet [PBUH] isn’t removed by his death. he’s definitely said such thing to get to his dirty intention. His infidelity is certain.
“Hesni Damascene, v 1, p 68
This is a summery of what Mr. “Hesni Damascene” has said about “Ibn Taymiyyah”.
Presenter:
Dear Master, Mr. “Hesni Damascene” has said that “Ibn Taymiyyah” has used of the story of “Umar” for his dirty intention, tell us about that story, what’s this about?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
The issue that Mr. “Hesni Damascene” mentioned is what “Bukari” has said in his book “Sahih Bukhari” Hadith No. 1010, about “Umar bin Khattab” and other companions’ resorting to prophet Muhammad [PBUH] and then Hadrat “Abbas”, prophet’s [PBUH] uncle . In this narrative “Umar” says decisively:
حدثنا الْحَسَنُ بن مُحَمَّدٍ حدثنا محمد بن عبد اللَّهِ الْأَنْصَارِيُّ حدثني أبي عبد اللَّهِ بن الْمُثَنَّى عن ثُمَامَةَ بن عبد اللَّهِ بن أَنَسٍ عن أَنَسٍ رضي الله عنه أَنَّ عُمَرَ بن الْخَطَّابِ كان إذا قَحَطُوا اسْتَسْقَى بِالْعَبَّاسِ بن عبد الْمُطَّلِبِ فقال اللهم إِنَّا كنا نَتَوَسَّلُ إِلَيْكَ بِنَبِيِّنَا ص فَتَسْقِينَا وَإِنَّا نَتَوَسَّلُ إِلَيْكَ بِعَمِّ نَبِيِّنَا فَاسْقِنَا قال فَيُسْقَوْنَ.
It’s been quoted from “Umar” {second caliph}: when drought would occur, we’d resort “Abbas bin Abd al-Mattalib” prophet’s [PBUH] uncle to ask rain. “Umar” would say: god, at the time of prophet [PBUH] we’d always resort to him sending us rain.
SahihBukhari, v 1, p 342
Dears pay attention, it’s not the matter of resorting prophet’s [PBUH] praying but it’s about resorting prophet [PBUH] himself. they also say: we resort our prophet’s [PBUH] uncle, they don’t say: god send your grace rain because prophet’s [PBUH] uncle.
“ibn Taymiyyah” says about this narrative:
ان التوسل المشروع ، هو التوسل بدعائه وبشفاعته لا السؤال بذاته . لم ينقل ان احد منهم انه في حياته صلي الله عليه وسلم سأل الله بمخلوق لا به ولا بغيره لا في الاستسقاء ولا في غيره .
In here, “Umar” doesn’t say we resort prophet [PBUH] himself; but he meant resorting prophet’s [PBUH] praying and intercession.
Everything is clear in this narrative and we don’t need interpretation and things like that. About the verse “ید الله فوق ایدیهم” {The Hand of Allah is above their hands } they it’s against the appearance of “Quran” verse to consider something hidden, we have to live up to the appearance of the verse, so why “Ibn Taymiyyah” doesn’t live up to the appearance of the narrative in here?? He says that when “Umar” says: “انا نتوسل بنبینا” it means “بدعاء نبینا بشفاعة نبينا”. Where did “Ibn Taymiyyah” and his brainless followers get this from.
“Ibn Taymiyyah” says in continue:
We didn’t see in any narrative from any companion quoting that we’d resort prophet [PBUH] or others for rain or anything else.
Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Tavasul and al-Vasilah, p 66-67
This sentence is really weird!!!
But my dears be careful, on their “Wahhabi” networks they say this narrative in a way to deceive you saying if resorting prophet [PBUH] were permissible after his death so why “Umar” would say: we want to resort prophet’s [PBUH] uncle. Why didn’t they resort prophet’s [PBUH] grave?
“Muhammad bin Alavi Maliki”, “Saudi Arabia” big scholar says in his book:
“Ibn Taymiyyah” and “Wahhabis” neglected, when “Umar” says we used to resort prophet [PBUH] and now we resort his uncle, it’s because they wanted to say “dropsy” prayer and needed someone as leader to say prayer behind him. When prophet [PBUH] is in the grave, we can’t put him the leader of prayer. So it’s not what they think it is. Furthermore, when “Umar bin Khattab” didn’t resort prophet [PBUH] after his death and went to prophet’s [PBUH] uncle, it shows that resorting a dead person is Haram. {forbidden}.
How could you understand from this narrative that resorting a dead person is Haram??? Does lack of doing something show that that thing is Haram?? Where did you such thing??
Proving something doesn’t negate other things. “Umar” just says: we resort god almighty via prophet’s [PBUH] uncle, but he’s silent about this if resorting prophet [PBUH] is Haram.
We ask “Wahhabis” whether or not resorting good deed or resorting names of “Allah” is permissible? Why did “Umar” not resort good deed or names of “Allah” instead of resorting “Abbas bin Abd al-Muttalib” prophet’s [PBUH] uncle? So if resorting “Abbas” prophet’s [PBUH] uncle shows that resorting good deed or names of god haram?
if Umar’s resorting to “Abbas” prophet [PBUH]’s uncle shows that resorting prophet after his death is forbidden, so resorting divine names and righteous deed is Haram either while you say it’s legitimate.
Another point is that after “Umar” resorted “Abbas” and rain started, “Umar” said:
واستسقى عُمَرَ بن الخطاب بالعباس رضي الله عنهما عام الرَّمَادة لما اشتد القحط . فسقاهُمُ الله تعالى به ، وأخصبت الأرض . فقال عمر : هذا والله الوسيلة إلى الله ، والمكان منه.
After drought, When “Umar” resorted god via “Abbas” prophet [PBUH]’s uncle, god almighty sent rain, “Umar” said: O people! Swear by god, “Abbas” is our means towards god almighty.
Do a you accept it or not? As for Shia imams [AS], when we say they’re our means towards god, you call us infidel.
See that how these guys deceive people. They think anything that they experts say on “Wahhabi” networks, people will accept as revelation.
Mr. “Zeini Dahlan” quotes someone’s debate with “Muhammad ibn Abd al-wahhab”:
“Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab” says: when “Umar ibn Khattab”, rather than resorting prophet [PBUH] he resorted “Abbas”, it shows that resorting dead body is Haram, polytheism and innovation. That man said: when “Umar” resorts “Abbas” for rain, he’s saying to people that we can resort non-prophet. It means: we can resort righteous people other than prophet [PBUH] either, not that it proves that resorting dead person is Haram.
How is that possible to say that “Umar” wanted to prove that resorting dead is Haram, while he himself quoted the story of “Adam” [AS]’s resorting to prophet [PBUH] despite of at that time prophet [PBUH] wasn’t born yet, is that possible that from one side “Umar” says: several hundred thousand years ago “Adam” [AS] resorted prophet [PBUH] before his birth, but now that he’s sprit has moved to another world, resorting prophet [PBUH] is illegitimate.
“Zeini Dahlan”, al-dur al-Sunniyah, p 40
Presenter:
Dear master, I ask you to tell about the “Adam” [AS]’s resorting to Prophet [PBUH].
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
“Hakim Neishapuri” quotes from “Umar bin Khattab”:
لما اقترف آدم الخطيئة قال يا رب أسألك بحق محمد لما غفرت لي فقال الله يا آدم وكيف عرفت محمد أو لم أخلقه قال يا رب لأنك لما خلقتني بيدك ونفخت في من روحك رفعت رأسي فرأيت على قوائم العرش مكتوبا لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله فعلمت انك لم تضف إلى اسمك الا أحب الخلق إليك فقال الله صدقت يا آدم انه لأحب الخلق إلي ادعني بحقه فقد غفرت لك ولولا محمد ما خلقتك هذا حديث صحيح الاسناد ...
When “Adam” [AS] left the paradise for committing lapse and cried for long time, god taught him some word. “Adam” [AS] said to god: O god! I swear you by Muhammad [PBUH], god almighty said: O “Adam”! you know Muhammad [PBUH] while I’ve not created him. “Adam” answered: god, when you created me I raised my head and saw this sentence on the pillar of divine throne: “ there is no god but Allah, Muhammad [PBUH] is the messenger of god”, I saw his name beside your name, so I found out that no one other than your most darling creatures deserve his name to be next to yours, And found out that he possesses high position.
God said: O “Adam”, you’re right, to me he’s the most darling creature, I forgave you when you swore me by his name, if it were not for Muhammad [PBUH] I wouldn’t create you.
After quoting this narrative “Hakim Neishapuri” says:
In terms of document this narrative is quite valid.
Hakim Neishapuri, Al-Mustadrak, v 2, p 672
Viewers’ contact:
Viewer: {Shia-Iran}
I have question from dear master, you say prophet [PBUH] has given a book to Ali [AS] and a book to Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS], while god has revealed “Quran” till al human understand it, Shia imams [AS] understood it but now that Shia Imams [AS] are dead, how are supposed to understand it? Or how can we understand the book given to “Ali” [AS] by prophet [PBUH]?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
I never said such things, you watch the program again then ask your question.
Viewer: Shia
I’m 35 year old female and second wife of a man, his first wife curses at me a a lot, will god accept her curses? What would I do?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
Incorrect curses aren’t affective at all and she’s just committing sin. If you respond her, your spiritual reward is gone. If someone curses a believer and he/she leaves that guy to god, god will defend her as best as possible:
إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُدَافِعُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا ...
Allah will defend those who believe….
Sura AL-HAJJ, verse 38
If you make your husband to bother her and be impolite towards her and wouldn’t observe justice, you’ll be at fault, but if you don’t cause your husband annoying her, her curses won’t cause any harm.
Viewer: Shia
I ask dear master talking about the infallibility of Prophet [PBUH] and Shia imams [AS], I want to know if this infallibility is inherent or god has inspired to them to be controlled not to commit sin.
Viewer: Shia
In my opinion Sunnis have confused the matter of Imamate and caliphate, while they’re quite different than each other, this is innovitable fact that they didn’t put commander of faithful Ali [AS] as caliph, but they’re wrong saying that “Ali” [AS] wasn’t imam and prophet [PBUH]’s successor. Commander of faithful [AS] was imam in the first place and will be imam forever and people themselves did loss not to understand it.
I ask you to shed light on the matter of imamate and caliphate saying that they’re different than each other. It’s not like if someone is caliph, he’ll definitely be imam either.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
I’ve said several time that commander of faithful [AS] says: to me this caliphate and this mansion are more worthless than the goat’s saliva
But these illiterate guys say: commander of faithful [AS] says: to me this imamate is more worthless than the goat’s saliva.
Imam has tasks. One of imam’s task is leading people, god almighty says in sura AL-RAD, verse 7:
“إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُنْذِرٌ وَلِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ هَادٍ”
You are only a warner, and there is a guide for every nation.
When this verse was sent down, prophet [PBUH] put his hand on Ali [AS]’s chest and said:
“انا المنذر وانت الهادي بك يهتدي المهتدون من بعدي”
O “Ali”, I’m the warner of this nation and you’re its guide, after my demise you’re in charge of guiding this nation.
Ibn kathir Tafsir, v 2, p 520/ “Fakhr Razi”, v 5, p 271
Another task of Imam is scientific authority. He should respond people’s questions and solve their problems, prophet Muhammad [PBUH] said in “Ghadir Khum” and other places:
( إني تارك فيكم الثقلين : كتاب الله وعترتي أهل بيتي ، وأنهما لم يفترقا حتى يردا علي الحوض ما أن تمسكتم بهما لن تضلوا .
I left “Quran” and my “Ahl al-Bayt” {people of the house} amongst you, they will never part from each other till they come to me at Al-Kawthar { Al Kawthar: river, its pool and springs} if you hold them, you’ll never stray.
Ibn kathir Damascene, “sirah al-Nabawiyyah”, v 4, p 416
Ibn Kathir says:
Our master, Mr. “Zahabi” said that this narrative is valid.
So scientific authority for people is one of the tasks of imam.
Another point is about clearing the difference of nation, prophet [PBUH] says:
ان النبي صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم قال لعلي أنت تبين لامتي ما اختلفوا فيه بعدي * هذا حديث صحيح على شرط الشيخين ولم يخرجاه *
Dear “Ali”!, as for the cases of discrepancy amongst people, this is your task to cite them to people.
Hakim Neshapury, Al-Mustadrak, v 3, p 122
Keeping “Sharia” {religious law} is another task of Shia imams [AS], prophet [PBUH] says:
قال ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : " في كل خلف من أمتي عدول من أهل بيتي ينفون عن هذا الدين تحريف الضالين وانتحال المبطلين وتأويل الجاهلين ...
In each generation of nation, guys from my “Ahl al-bayt” {people of the house} have been put to maintain “Sharia” and to remove the innovation of heretics.
“Ibn Hajar al-Haytami”, al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, p 148”
Fifth point is the mediation for grace that we talked about it in the month of “Ramadan”. As god says in “Quran” about Hadrat “Solomon”:
“هَذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ”
This is Our gift, give or withhold without reckoning.
Sura, SAD {the letter SAD} p 39
And we’ve many narratives that Shia and Sunni believe that Prophet [PBUH] and “Ahl al-Bayt” [AS] are the mediator of grace. We’ll talk about it more comprehensive later on, but I mention to several books, Mustadrak, “Hakim Nishapuri”, v 2, p 448, as well as, “Ahmad bin Hanbal” in the book “virtues” p 189, Hadith No. 267, they’ve said in their books that prophet [PBUH] is the mediator of grace.
Another task of imam is establishing government and spreading justice. It’s written in the book “Mutadrak” from “Hakim Nishapuri”, v 3, p 142 that Prophet [PBUH] has said:
“إن تولوا عليا تجدوه هاديا مهديا يسلك بكم الطريق المستقيم”
If you accept Ali bin abi-Talib’s guardianship and imamate, he’ll guide all of you to the direct path and behave you through justice, all of you are amongst those who will get to real direction.
“Hakim Nishapuri” says that this narrative is valid.
So according to what we said, Imam’s tasks are creating reign, spreading justice, ruling on people. However Ali [AS]’s caliphate was usurped:
“صبرت وفي العين قذى وفي الحلق شجا أرى تراثي نهبا”
so if Imam can’t creating government, his other tasks are still stand and must be done. During those 25 years, commander of faithful [AS] wasn’t caliph; but he lived up to all Imam’s tasks. If some would ask consultation that was related to Islam’s and Muslims’ life commander of faithful [AS] would do so, even if a Jewish asks him to consultation commander of faithful [AS] wouldn’t betray, and consulting triple-caliphs doesn’t show that he was their consultant or he’s accepted their caliphate.
It’s written in the book “Sahih Bukhari” v 5, p 82, that commander of faithful [AS] said to “Abu-Bakr”:
“انك استبدت علينا”
You oppressed us.
“Wahhabis”, tell us the meaning of “استبدت “
“کراهية لمحضر عمر”
Commander of faithful Ali [AS] didn’t want to see “Umar” and was reluctant to be at the same place as “Umar”.
These are things that you’ve quoted in “Sahih Bukhari”.
Ali [AS] says about “Umar” and “Abu-Bakr”:
They’re liar, tricky and traitor.
Sahih Muslim, v 5, p 152
This is not written in our books saying that you insulted our caliphs.
Viewer- Shiite- Los Angles
I want to say point. You invite “Wahhabi” networks debating and they do so. But it’s unlikely that you go to their studio or they come to your studio. In my opinion it must be done on a neutral network.
What experts of “Kalamah” Wahhabi network do is that they show a narrative from the book “Al-Kafi” or “Bihar al-Anvar” then they translate it wrongly or it has really such meaning that we don’t understand it. It makes many people to go stray, both side would better be invited to debate through letter.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
My dear brother! We’ve said several times that each one of the expert of “Kalamah” Wahhabi networks who is ready to debate with me or other experts of “Velayat” global network would let us know. If they send us invitation card, we’ll go to their studio in UAE. Last year I wanted to travel to UAE but they banned me from entering. I said why: they said, because you talk against “Wahhabism”.
As for “Vesal” network, they keep cursing, we don’t consider them humen let alone debating them. “Mulla zadeh” who just learned from his mother how to curse is not worthy of debate.
But “Kalamah” network, Mr. “Heidari” announced officially on “Fetneh News” website that I accept Qazvini’s conditions for debate. It’s been one year that I’m waiting for him to get ready for debate, I want him to send us message or E-mail, if he’s ready to debate till we send him invitation card coming here to have friendly conversation.
If it’s not possible for them, we’re ready to debate with them from here, and them in their own studio, half of T.V screen for the experts of “Kalamah” network and half for the our experts. This way seems to be fine.
Second point, they say narratives from books “Al-Kafi”, “Behar al-anvar”. They didn’t accept our debate, me and my disciples, Mr. “Abu al-Qasismi” and “Yazdani”, show their clips and respond what they say and leave judgment to people. We’ve disclosed all their lies.
Viewer:
I want to say something responding one of viewers who said that why commander of faithful [AS] guided “Umar” and “Abu-Bakr”, if he didn’t accept their caliphate? Because “Ali” [AS] was imam, and doing his task as imam shows Ali [AS]’s sincerely in religion.
There is a contradictory in their talks, when it comes to “Umar” and “Abu-Bakr” caliphate, they say: Islam was more important than and prophet [PBUH]’s burial and caliph should have been appointed quickly. But when comes to “Ali” [AS], they say: finding the killer of third caliph “Uthman” is more important, While caliphate was commander of faithful [AS]’s inalienable right in the first place.
Viewer:
Thank god that there’s a sect in the world called Shia that hasn’t ever made unjustifiable remark. What “Ibn Taymiyyah” and “Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab” have thought other than tying bomb around you exploding it amid people destroying reputation of Islam. When a Shia or a real Muslim explodes bomb killing innocent people.
Viewer: Shia
I want to say two points:
First point is about resorting, they themselves call their networks asking Wahhabi experts to pray for their patient. Isn’t it considered “resort”?
Second: the expert of the “Kalamah” network would say that we’re right not Shias because Shias don’t say good things about “Abu-Bakr” and “Umar”. I say to them: you’re oppressing Shiite Imams [AS] and commander of faithful [AS] by questioning their infallibility and saying irrelevant things about Ali [AS].
Viewer: Shia
I ask Ayatollah “QAZVINI” to set up a network about “Mahdism” because according to Shiite narratives, most of doubts in apocalypse { in Shiite Islam, the period between the re-advent of the 12th. imam of Shiite Muslims (Hadrat Mahdi, now believed by shi’ites to be in occultation) and the Judgment Day that follows it}. are About Imam “Mahdi” [AS].
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
A friends of mine has prepared the arrangement of setting up such network is “Qom” province.
Viewer: “Hadi- Shiite”
I called “Kalamah” network, and talked about invalid narratives written in the book “Kafi” that they say them to people on the air on purpose. Before “Wahhabi” experts say these narratives to people, Shia scholars have separated them from other narratives and Allamah “Majlisi” {Shia scholar} has written the book “Mera’t al-Oqul” in this regard.
I said to them that Mr. “Qazvini” has invited you to have face to face debate, “Saudi Arabia” Mufti has invited to debate either. But you Mr. “Heidari” {Wahhabi expert} didn’t accept it, it shows your belief is wrong.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
I’ve said several times that we’re ready to have debate or friendly chat with each. Let’s talk, if we’re wrong well prove it before people till they leave us. If you’re wrong we’ll prove it. At least we should make it clear for people to get rid of this confusion. We’ve said a lot that we accept to debate with them, unless those who keep cursing. We can even record our debate if they don’t like to it be broadcast live, this way they can censure what they want.
Shia:
Recently, Wahhabi experts say in their programs that why did prophet [PBUH] introduce “Ali” as his successor in “Ghadir Khum” when pilgrims were dispersed, why didn’t he do so in “Arafat”? { Mount Arafat or Mount Arafah is a granite hill east of Mecca in the plain of Arafat. Arafat is a plain about 20 km southeast of Mecca}.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
There’s a simple answer for your question, Sunnis have said in numerous narrative in their books that “Gabriel” came down and said:
يَا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ رَبِّكَ وَإِنْ لَمْ تَفْعَلْ فَمَا بَلَّغْتَ رِسَالَتَهُ ...
O Messenger, deliver what is sent down to you from your Lord; if you do not, you will not have conveyed His Message.
Sura AL-MAEDA, verse 67
And as soon as prophet [PBUH] was told on the 18th day of Dhu al-Hijja {on the Muslim lunar calendar} in “Ghadir”, he settled there and ordered those who are forward to get back and those who are behind to arrive. He stayed there three days and introduced commander of faithful [AS] as his successor.
They can refer to heir Tafsir books such as: Dur al-Mathur, Suyuti, v 2, p 298 and Tafsir “Wahidi” Hadith No. 403, and many of other Tafsir books, all of them have quoted this event.
“Alusi Wahhabi” quotes from “Abd allah ibn Masud” v 6, p 193:
At the time of prophet [PBUH] we’d recite this verse like this:
يا أَيُّهَا الرَّسُولُ بَلِّغْ مَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِنْ رَبِّكَ }بان عليا ولي المؤمنين { وَإِنْ لَمْ تَفْعَلْ فَمَا بَلَّغْتَ رِسَالَتَهُ…
Rooh al-Ma’ani Tafsir, v 6, p 193
When verse was sent down, prophet [PBUH] introduced commander of faithful [AS] as caliph.
They say: why didn’t Prophet [PBUH] say it in “Arafat”, because people are busy worshiping in such places and gathering them is not easy. On the other hand doing Affairs is in the hands of people of “Medina”. Anyone that they select as caliph, Islamic cities follow them and people of “Mecca”, “Ta’if” and other Islamic lands don’t have role in the fate of Islamic nation.
Viewer: Shiite
I want to say something and ask Master to tell me if this belief is right or not? I believe that they bring down the dignity of Hadrat “Khadija”, commander of faithful [AS] and other Shiite Imams [AS] to bring up the dignity of “Umar”, “Abu-Bakr” and “Uthman” and “Ayesha”. Is that true or not?
Viewer: Shia
I have question from dear Master, I don’t have enough knowledge to recite “Quran”. Is that enough if I read Persian translation? Will be given the spiritual reward of reciting “Quran”?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
Imam “Ali” [AS] was asked:
We misread when we recite “Quran”, would we stop reciting “Quran” or not. Imam “Ali” [AS] said: god almighty will put angels who correct verses you misread.
Reciting “Quran” itself that doesn’t exist in reading its translation. But I suggest you to recite two pages of holy “Quran” rather reciting two pages every day. Recite its Arabic text once and read its translation several times, because reciting “Quran” is good; even if you look at the page of holy “Quran”, you’ll be given spiritual reward.
One of Mystics says: if you want god talking to you recite holy “Quran” and if you want talking to god read supplication.
So when you recite “Quran” you should have feeling that as if “Gabriel” has come and is reciting these verses and is telling us our tasks. In fact, “Quran” is divine letter for me ordering and forbidding me. If we have such felling while reciting holy “Quran”, it’s definitely the highest level of notice towards “Quran”.
Viewer: Shiite- USA
I have several question from dear Master:
First: who killed “Ayesha”?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
It’s well-known that “Muawiyyah” has killed her.
Viewer:
How is that possible that he kills the mother of believers?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
That’s the problem, it’s been 15 centuries that it’s not been solved, then you expect me to solve it.
Viewer:
Ali [AS] says in “Nahj al-Balaghah”: if you have hearable ear and sighting eye, you’ll see and hear the truth.
But unfortunately, these guys have not of them.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
Who killed Ayasha’s brother “Muhammad bin Abu-Bakr”? was not imam “Hasan” [AS] Prophet [PBUH]’s and higher than “Muawiyyah” and “Ayesha”? isn’t it true that “Muawiyyah” martyred Imam “Hasan” [AS]. Wasn’t “Hujr Ibn ‘Adi” Prophet [PBUH]’s companion who was killed by “Muawiyyah”?
Viewer:
If these guys had reason to prove their rightfulness, they wouldn’t resort to all this blood shedding and disgusting words and curses. You invite them for debate but don’t dare to accept it.
Viewer:
Our Shiite Imams who have foreknowledge, if they can use of it against divine fortuity? experts of “Wahhabi” networks say that foreknowledge is against divine fortuity.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
Shiite Imams [AS] don’t use of their foreknowledge for their own personnel affairs let alone using of it against divine fortuity. For instance, imam “Hasan” knew that that bowl is noxious. Imam “Husein” knew that he’ll get martyred in “Karbala”, Prophet [PBUH] knew that 70 members of companions will be killed in the battle of “Uhod”, but this foreknowledge doesn’t bring obligation for Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] and Shiite Imams.
Viewer: Sunni
Master “Qazvini”! you always talk about “Wahhabism” and Sunni. Do you know them the same?
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
No I don’t, I’ve said that Sunnis and “Wahhabism” are not the same. We never let anyone to put “Wahhabism” and Sunni beside each saying that they’re the same. Not only I don’t know Sunni and “Wahhabism” the same, but I don’t know all “Wahhabis” the same. Our radical difference is with “Takfiri Wahhabism”, the “Wahhabism” that know both Shiite and Sunni as infidel, those who slaughtered 25 pilgrims of Imam “Reza” [AS] in Pakistan. “Takfiri Wahhabism” commits such crimes in the name of Islam, what kind humanity is that ?!!
Our main problem is with “Takfiri Wahhabism”; otherwise there are wise guys amongst “Wahhabis” who are fair. In our idea15% of “Wahhabis” are “Takfiri” and rest of them who in “Saudi Arabia” are wise guys. truth may get clear for them if debate is made.
Viewer: Shiite
I want to say in response to that viewer who said that you insult “Ayesha” that Ayatollah “Qazvini” has said anything from your own books such as: “Sahih Bukhari” and “Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal”, he’s not said anything out his desire or from Shiite books, be fair.
Ayatollah “QAZVINI”:
I’ve never insulted “Ayesha” or caliphs, if anyone can find that I’ve done so, I’ll apologize and will reward him.
I remember that that program’s presenter said: I don’t like “Ayesha” to be my mother, I told him it’s insulting Sunnis and their sanctities and he accepted his mistake and apologized to them. It’s been our method over the last eight years.
We quote our issues from Sunni resources, though, curse is written there, we have to quote these issues to people. If there curse or insulting, well it’s what’s written in your own books including “Sahih Muslim and Bukhari”.
The worst insults towards Prophet [PBUH]’s spouses are written in “Sahih Muslim and Bukhari” and in fact it’s insulting Prophet [PBUH], if you’re right that these two books are the best after Holy “Quran”, delete these insults and disgusting issues written in these books.
Viewer:
Thank you very much dear Master as well as you respectable viewers for watching us.