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Excommunicating all Sunnis by “Ibn Taymiyyah”

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Date: January 01,2017


In the name of god, hello to all viewers of “Velayat” global channel and “Habl al-Matin” live program, we are the guests of your house in one of the winter nights, I hope that we can be good guests presenting “Habl al-Matin” program.

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We’re proud that Ayatollah Qazwini, our dear master is here. Hello master:

Ayatollah “Qazwini”

Hello to you and all dear and vulnerable viewers worldwide and wish them constant prosperity.


Dear viewers last week we had to discuss a matter. Experts of Wahhabi channels did a wrong comparison between Shia Imams [AS] and “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab”, this comparison is quite wrong and light and darkness couldn’t be compared at all. Wahhabi Channels said issues in this regard and Ayatollah Qazwini pointed out to the differences between “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” and Shia Imams [AS] and promised us to talk about excommunicating Sunnis by “Ibn Taymiyyah”.

“Ibn Taymiyyah” excommunicates anyone except himself, same goes for “Muhammad bin abd al Wahhab”, I ask dear master to tell us a summary from last session.

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

In last session we talked about the personality and sayings of Shia Imams [AS] and “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab”.

I said that we don’t say these issues for Wahhabi irreverent experts of that channel who know themselves scientist, because they’re not worth it to answer them.

These guys sent letter to our “Maraji’ Taqlid” {source of emulation} but they didn’t care about them answering their letter. While if a worker, staff or s house keeper sends letter to our “Maraji’ Taqlid”, they answer them quickly. This reaction of “Maraji’ Taqlid” shows that the only answer to the fools is silence!!

If I said issues in the last session it was because “Mr. Sujoodi” {Wahhabi expert} allows Shias who call his program talking. It’s necessary to mention that he’s unfair and allows each Shia to talk just five minutes but himself talks one hour in fact he wants to select those who don’t know a lot until they can’t challenge him or question his beliefs.


He was supposed to broadcast part of your sayings.

Ayatollah Qazwini:

He promised and said: “If Mr. Qazwini answers this comparison, I promise to show his sayings.” As far as I know he’s not practiced his promise yet.

If we want to talk about it tonight, this Wahhabi irreverent channel is the clear instance of this Quran verse:

(إِنْ هُمْ إِلاَّ کالْأَنْعامِ بَلْ هُمْ أَضَلُّ)

Do you think that most of them can hear or understand? They are like cattle, no, they are further astray from the Path. (44)

Sura Al-Furqan – verse 44

From one side these guys claim that we don’t curse anyone on our channel, but if you count his curses from the first of the program to the end, you see that the number of his insults towards “Maraji’” and elders are more than fifty.

Of course, behavior of Wahhabi experts is good opportunity for us, dear Sunnis will see these guys and watch our program as well. These guys change our sayings and make new things, every week people watch our program and our friends’ program and watch the program of Wahhabi experts as well. “Mr. Yazdani” and “Mr. Abu al-Ghasimi” were supposed to respond the insults of these Wahhabi experts. Though, I feel that they don’t need to answer them; because kids who are the viewers of our program can understand more than them.

What I want to say is that we believe that insulting Sunni sanctities is unforgivable sin.

I had a meeting with “Mr. “Dihvari” and said this sentence in that meeting. He told me: “Do you accept to say this sentence on “Salam” channel?!” I said: I have said this sentence more than 100 times!! This event caused our relationship to get better but unfortunately Takfiri guys assassinated him.

So, we’ve announced several times that insulting Sunni sanctities is unforgivable sin and we also know making division between Sunni and Shia as sedition. And I apologize if and anyone else on this channel including me have done so.

So, if these irreverent guys are ready to debate they should go debating with that irreverent guy in “Los Angeles”, this guy has announced several times that we are ready to prove the blasphemy of some of Sahaba and believers’ mothers and debate about it.

If Wahhabi experts are really right and want to defend sahaba and caliphs and are really the defenders of mothers of believers they should go answering that irreverent guy in “Los Angeles”.

We’ve said in here that we don’t know him Shia at all, he’s been hired by enemies of Islam, he gets money from the enemy and swears at Sunnis and their scholars and Shia scholars.

We hate him and believe that if someone knows him Muslim, we doubt if that guy is Muslim.

“Mr. Yazdani” and “Mr. Abu al-Ghasimi” have said several times that they’re ready to debate with this guy but topic of debate must be principles of religion and the first pillar of religion principles is theism!

We’ll prove that theism of Wahhabism and Wahhabi experts including “Ibn Taymiyyah” and “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” is based on blasphemy. The theism that “Ibn Taymiyyah” and “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” introduce is even worse than the infidelity of infidels lived at the time of ignorance!!

I don’t think that infidels of the time ignorance would believe that our god has hand, ear and foot or he gets sick and angles go visiting him.

Wahhabis’ god can create one thousand gods like himself and can give gun to his Prophet killing him.

“Ibn Firooz” who is amongst Sunni big scholars and is one of the followers of “Ibn Taymiyyah”, says that “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” is from the generation of devil.

Wahhabi expert shall answer it! They say scholars like you insult “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” while “Ibn Firooz” is the follower of “Ibn Taymiyyah”, he says: “Devil is the father of “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab!!” Shia scholars have not said it.

We also said that father of “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” says about him: “as for him, I prove blasphemy and infidelity!!”

“Ibn Taymiyyah” excommunicates Sunnis, I read one narrative from his books “Minhaj al-Sunnah” and “Fataawa collection” and said several reasons that “Ibn Taymiyyah” knows Sunnis infidel. It’s written in “Minhaj al-Sunnah” book:

 «وأصل المذهب إنما ابتدعه زنادقة منافقون»

“Ibn Taymiyyah” – Mihaj al-Sunnah – vol. 6, p 303

If he just meant Shias, he should have used “رافضه" word in this narrative.

Messenger of god [PBUH] has been the founder of Shia sect and in more than forty narratives he says to Hadrat “Ali” [AS]:

یا عَلِی أَنْتَ وَ شِیعَتُک فِی الْجَنَّة

أَنْتَ وَ شِیعَتُک هُمُ الْفَائِزُون

تأتی یوم القیامة انت و هم راضون مرضیون

These issues were not made by Shia; in fact “Tashayyu’” was founded at the time of messenger of god [PBUH]. In another opportunity I’ll say that at the time of Prophet [PBUH] there were companions known as Shia of “Ali bin abi Talib”!!

“Ibn Taymiyyah” says: “Imams of Shia were infidel and hypocrite.” If he means “Abdullah bin Saba’” and believes that he’s the founder of Shia, we made everything clear about him and said: Sunni scholars admit that this saying is fake.

Some guys made these sayings to save themselves from precipice. In another place of this book he says:

«ولهذا رؤوس المذاهب آلتی ابتدعوها لم یقل أحد أنهم زنادقة منافقون»

“Mr. Sujoodi”! Translate this narrative for us, it says that sects that made “Bid’ah” {innovation in religion}, who does he mean when he says:

رؤوس المذاهب آلتی ابتدعوها

This narrative isn’t related to Shia; because he says in continue:

«لیسوا منافقین ولا کفارا»

They were neither hypocrite nor infidel.

The he says explicitly:

«وأصل المذهب إنما ابتدعه زنادقة منافقون» «مرادهم إفساد دین الإسلام»

They were the founder of faith of hypocrites and heretics, they wanted to corrupt Islam religion.

“Ibn Taymiyyah” – Minhaj al-Sunnah – vol. 6, p 302

In this paragraph he didn’t say the word “رافضه“, on the other hand “Ibn Taymiyyah” has some other sentences that show that all Islamic sects are corrupt and has said that they are infidel.

It’s written in “Fataawa collection” book, vol. 4, p 177:

«فَمَنْ قَالَ: أَنَا شَافِعِی الشَّرْعِ أَشْعَرِی الِاعْتِقَادِ» «قُلْنَا لَهُ: هَذَا مِنْ الْأَضْدَادِ لَا بَلْ مِنْ الِارْتِدَادِ»

Anyone who says that I’m the follower of “Imam Shafi’i” in “Fiqh” principles and the follower of “Abul al-Hasan Ash’ari” in theological priciples, that guy is apostate.

You find a “Shafi’i” Sunni who says: “I’m the follower of “Imam Shafi’i”, but I don’t accept “Ash’ari.” We’ve not ever seen such thing.

Then he says:

«وَمَنْ قَالَ: أَنَا حَنْبَلِی فِی الْفُرُوعِ مُعْتَزِلِی فِی الْأُصُولِ قُلْنَا: قَدْ ضَلَلْت إذًا عَنْ سَوَاءِ السَّبِیلِ»

“Ibn Taymiyyah” – Fataawa collection – vol. 4- p 177

There is an interesting issue in “Fataawa collection” book that I’ve showed it thousand times. It’s written in this book, vol. 22, p 248:

«کمَنْ یتَعَصَّبُ لِمَالِک أَوْ الشَّافِعِی أَوْ أَحْمَد أَوْ أَبِی حَنِیفَةَ وَیرَی أَنَّ قَوْلَ هَذَا الْمُعَینِ هُوَ الصَّوَابُ الَّذِی ینْبَغِی اتِّبَاعُهُ دُونَ قَوْلِ الْإِمَامِ الَّذِی خَالَفَهُ»«فَمَنْ فَعَلَ هَذَا کانَ جَاهِلًا ضَالًّا؛ بَلْ قَدْ یکونُ کافِرًا»

Anyone who is fanatic towards “Malik”, “Shafi’i”, “Ahmad bin Hanbal” and “Abu Hanifah” and says that these Imams are right and we’d better follow them, such guy is infidel, ignorant, misguided.

And eventually he says:

 «فَإِنَّهُ مَتَی اعْتَقَدَ أَنَّهُ یجِبُ عَلَی النَّاسِ اتِّبَاعُ وَاحِدٍ بِعَینِهِ مِنْ هَؤُلَاءِ الْأَئِمَّةِ دُونَ الْإِمَامِ الْآخَرِ»

We believe that it’s compulsory to people to follow a certain guy and can’t follow another Imam.

All “Shafi’i” scholars believe that anyone who is “Shafi’i”, it’s compulsory that he follows Imam “Shafi’i”, and anyone who is “Hanafi”, he should follow “Abu Hanifah”.

«فَإِنَّهُ یجِبُ أَنْ یسْتَتَابَ فَإِنْ تَابَ وَإِلَّا قُتِلَ»

If someone has such belief, they should make him to repent and if he doesn’t repent, he must be killed.

“Ibn Taymiyyah” – Fataawa collection, vol. 22, p 248

In his opinion Muslims are ignorant, misled, infidel and we should make them to repent and must be killed. Dear viewers look that when he says the name of Sunni Imams, he doesn’t say Imam “Sadiq” [AS] or “Imam al-Rafizah” and has just said Sunni four well-known denominations.

“Mr. Sujoodi” {Wahhabi expert} translate this issue and explain to us, we promise you to broadcast your justification about this issue on “Velayat” global channel!!

I don’t know what nights he has program, I want him to answer this saying in his first program and I promise to broadcast it.

And “Muhammad bin abd Allah bin Sulayman al Salman” one of the grandchildren of “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” writes:

«وفی کثیر من المناسبات یذم الشیخ محمد بن عبد الوهاب التقلید»

In many things “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” would dispraise emulation.

«حتی جعله من الأمور آلتی خالف فی‌ها الرسول صلی الله علیه وسلم المشرکین»

One of things that made Prophet [PBUH] to oppose infidels was that they would imitate.

Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] would say to pagans to believe in god, but they’d say:

«أی هذا دین آبائنا و انا علی آثارهم لمقتدون»

Our ancestors had such religion and we follow them.

“Muhammad bin abd al –Wahhab” says: those who are imitating now are in fact taking the way of polytheists at the time of Prophet [PBUH]. Then he says:

«دین المشرکین مبنی علی أصول أعظمها التقلید»

The religion of polytheists has pillars that its biggest pillar is imitation.

«فهو القاعدة الکبری لجمیع الکفار أولهم وآخرهم»

Emulation is a big foundation for all polytheists from the first to the end.

“Muhammad bin Abd Allah bin Sulayman” - Da’vat al-Sheikh Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab- vol. 1, p 64

It’s also written in “Wahhabism invitation and its effect on Islamic thought” book written by “Dr. Muhammad Kamil Zahir”:

«ان التقلید بدعة مستحدثة فی الاسلام لم یعرف الصحابة الأوائل» «و اعلمان عموم أصحاب المذاهب یعظم فی قلوبهم شخص فیتبعون قوله من غیر تدبیر» «هذا عین الضلال» «محمد بن عبدالوهاب فقد هاجم التقلید و المقلدین»

Emulation is a “Bida’h” that was made after “Abu Hanifah”, because in the age of sahaba there wasn’t certain guy to follow. All the companions of sects bow to someone in their heart and follow his sayings without thinking. It’s the same as misleading. “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” would always criticize emulation and those who emulate.

He says in continue: he’d fight religious prejudices that cause division between Muslims and destroying their unity.

This saying is not related to Shias, but he meant Sunni four sects. It’s also written in “Al-Rasa’il al-Shakhsiyyah” book:

«رسالة أرسلها إلی عبد الوهاب بن عبد الله»

Then he says:

«ومن أدلة شیخ الإسلام: (اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبانهم أربابا من دون الله) الآیة» «فقد فسرها رسول الله والأئمة بعده بهذا الذی تسمونه الفقه» «وهو الذی سماه الله شرکاً» «واتخاذهم أرباباً» «لا أعلم بین المفسرین فی ذلک اختلافاً»

“Jews take their rabbis and monks as lords besides Allah”, he believes that they translate this verse like this that nowadays they call it “Hanafi”, “Hanbal” and Maliki” fiqh and god has put these different fiqhs blasphemy.

“Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” – al-Rasa’il al-Shakhsiyyah – vol. 1, p 276

It’s also written in “Mukhtasar sahih Muslim” book, searched by “Nasir al-Din Albani”:

«هذا صریح فی أن عیسی علیه السلام یحکم بشرعنا، ویقضی بالکتاب والسنة لا بغیرهما من الإنجیل أو الفقه الحنفی ونحوه!»

Author of this book has put “Hanafi” fiqh beside Gospel. If it’s not insulting so, what is it called?!

It’s also written in “Ada’ al-Matridiyyah” book, vol. 1:

«فی بیان أن الماتریدیة و ظلمائهم الاشعریة فرقة مبدعة کلامیة من أهل القبلة و لیسوا من أهل السنة المحضا»

All “Hanafis”, “Asha’ris” and “Shafi’is” are not absolute Sunni.

How would we say that these guys excommunicate Sunni scholars and elders?!

Someone was saying that when “Sheikh abd al-Quddos” says the name of “Abd al-Wahhab”, he says: “May god bless him”, but me and my family say: “May god damn him.

At the time of “Muhamamd bin abd al-Wahhab” some wrote a text and collected “Medina” scholars and told them you should sign this text otherwise we’ll cut your head out:

«نشهد بأن هذا الذی قام به الشیخ: محمد بن عبد الوهاب، رحمه الله» «ودعانا إلیه إمام المسلمین: سعود بن عبد العزیز»

The religion that “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” {May god bless him} and the religion that Imam of Muslims “Saud bin abd al-Aziz” has brought.

This guy is the supreme ancestor of “Malik Fahad”, “Malik Abd Allah” and “Malik Salman”.

«من توحید الله عز وجل، ونفی الشرک، هو الدین الحق، الذی لا شک فیه ولا ریب وأن ما وقع فی مکة والمدینة سابقاً، والشام ومصر، وغیرها من البلدان، إلی الآن من أنواع الشرک المذکورة فی هذا الکتاب»

Since the time of prophet [PBUH] until now that “Muhammad bin abd al- Wahhab” has appeared, anything that has happened in “Mecca”, “Medina”, “Sham”, “Egypt” and “Iraq” is the blasphemy written in this book, all these issues cause blasphemy and they could be killed and their wealth could be taken.

Then he says:

«وکل من لم یدخل فی هذا الدین، ویعمل به، ویعتقده، کما ذکر الإمام فی هذا الکتاب، فهو کافر بالله والیوم الآخر» «والواجب علی إمام المسلمین وکافة المسلمین»«وأنا الفقیر بن حسین بالروضة الشریفة. وکتبه الفقیر إلیه عز شأنه: محمد صالح رضوان، شهد بذلک، وکتبه: محمد بن إسماعیل، کتبه الفقیر إلی الله عز شأنه:? حسن وعلیه ختمهم»

Anyone who doesn’t practice this religion is infidel towards god and the day of resurrection. It’s compulsory to Imam of Muslims to make all Muslims fighting these guys.

Al-Durar al-Saniyyah- vol. 1, p 316

Then he says the name of those who signed this letter, then he’s collected “Mecca” scholars and made them to sign it, but in this letter these names haven’t been said: Islam, Holy Quran and Prophet Muhammad [PBUH].

In some sentences it’s been said explicitly that “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” has brought new religion, he wrote a text and made scholars of “Medina” and “Mcca” signing it.

After they signed it, “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” got happy. Pay attention “Al-Rasa’il al-Shakhsiyyah” that belongs to “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab”, there is a letter in page 277 for all Wahhabis who get this letter, he says in there:

«وقد منّ الله علیکم بإقرار علماء المشرکین بهذا کله، سمعتم إقرارهم أن هذا الذی یفعل فی الحرمین والبصرة والعراق والیمن، أن هذا شرک بالله» «فأقروا لکم أن هذا الدین الذی ینصرون أهله، ویزعمون أنهم السواد الأعظم»

All infidels’ scholars confessed that what is done in “Mecca”, “Medina” Basra”, “Iraq” and “Yemen” are all blasphemy towards god. They confessed that the religion brought by you is right religion and their confession is amongst the biggest signs of god and divine blessings for you.

“Muhammad bin abd alWahhab” – al-Rasa’il al-Shakhsiyyah – vol. 1, p 272

Look, this guy makes scholars to sign the letter and then he says that infidels’ scholars have confessed that what has happened in “Mecca” and “Medina” is infidelity.

And there is also an issue in “al-Durar al-Saniyyah” book that shows that this guy has made scholars of other countries to sign the letter as well.

Then “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” says: devil commits blasphemies at the grave of “Zayd bin Khattab” who is the brother of “Umar bin Khattab”, he says: “these void beliefs and illusive sects have also spread in “al-Haramain Sharifain”.

Then he addresses illusive sects, if he meant Shia he’d mention it by “Rafizah” sect while in that time there wasn’t Shia in “Mecca” and “Medina”.

He also says that infidelity affairs and idolatry worships are so much in “Egypt” that they’re not fit in book, he also says the name of other places such as: “Hazramoot”, “Shahr”, “Aden”, “Yafi’”, “Najran” and other regions and says:

«وفی أرض نجران من تلاعب الشیطان، وخلع ربقة الإیمان، ما لا یخفی علی أهل العلم بهذا الشأن»

Dear Kurds pay attention, “Muhhamad bin abd al-Wahhab” has said issues about you as well, he says:

«وکذلک الموصل، وبلاد الأکراد، ظهر فی‌ها من أصناف الشرک والفجور والفساد»

There are different types of infidelity, corruption and debauchery In “Musel” and “Kurd” lands.

“Al-Durar al-Saniyyah” – vol. 1, p 384

Then eventually he utters the blasphemy of “Rafizah”, in fact, before saying the blasphemy “Rafizah”, he says that “Egypt”, “Iraq”, “Mosul”, “Najran” and “Ta’if” and other lands are the land of blasphemy. Do want him to say the blasphemy of Muslims clearer than it?!

And also “Mr. Bin Baz” says in one of his books:

«لیتضح لک ما وقع فیه أکثر المسلمین»

He says that most of Muslims are infidel while most of Muslims are not Shia, but his saying him contains Sunnis.

«من الجهل العظیم بهذا الأصل الأصیل حتی عبدوا مع الله غیره»

“Abd al-Aziz Bin Baz” – al-Aqidah al-Sahiha, vol. 1, p 4

He says explicitly that most of Muslims are infidel and beside god they worship another god; the meaning of the first god is “Allah” and the second is Imams [AS].

And it’s also written in “Unwan al-Majd fi Tarikh al-Najd” written by “Sheikh Uthman bin Abd Allah bin Bashar”:

«ان هذا الدین الذی من الله به فی آخر هذا الزمان علی أهل النجد»

God’s given new religion to the people of “Najd” in apocalypse.

Then he says:

«ولکنه جدید بالنسبة إلی أهل نجد»

This religion is a new religion for the people of “Najd”.

Then he says that before “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” people were deviated and would worship stones and trees, he doesn’t mean Shias!! He believes that people were idolater before “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab”.

These issues aren’t related to Shias; because it’s clear that he doesn’t mean Shias.

Issues that I said tonight are just 5 percent of what these guys made. It’s necessary to mention that “Zayni Dahlan” is one of Wahhabi scholars and is one of the Muftis of “Mecca” and is not Shia.

In last sessions we quoted issues from “Zayni Dahlan” and then Wahhabi scholars claimed that this guy is a bad guy. We ask these guys that if this person that you claim that he’s a bad guy is a bad Shia guy or bad Wahhabi guy?!

These guys believe that anyone who praises “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” is Muslim otherwise we can kill him and take his wealth.

Last week I said sentences addressing “Mr. Sujoodi” that “Muhammad bin abd al-Wahhab” believes that if someone puts mediator between himself and god that person is infidel and could be killed and his wealth could be taken but he’s not said if mediator is Prophet [PBUH], or someone else.

Last week we talked about the position of resorting in the perspective of Shia Imams [AS] and said that Imam “Sadiq” [AS] says: our slogan is “O Muhammad and slogan of Imam Husayn [AS] has been “O Muhammad”!

And I also said a narrative that in the battle of “Yamama” and other wars Sunni elders would resort to this word: “O Muhammad”.

We’ll continue our discussion and doesn’t matter what they say. My friends have announced that they’re ready debating with Wahhabi experts. And also Wahhabi irreverent expert should debate with irreverent expert who is “Los Angeles”!! Wahaabis have several irreverent experts and two irreverent experts who call themselves Shia come on air, these guys can debate with each other. Of course it’s necessary to mention that we know these guys who call themselves Shia as traitor and hireling. These guys are more dangerous than Wahhabism, the face of wahhabism is clear but these guys undermine Shia in the name of Shia


Dear master one of viewers has said in his message: it’s a pity that Ayatollah “Qazwini” wastes his valuable answering Sujoodi’s questions!!

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

I didn’t answer his question but he claimed that if “Mr. Qazwini” answers our questions, I’ll broadcast his clip, I said these issues until he broadcasts them.


That’s right. Master you said amongst your sayings that some libel and say baseless issues that the founder of Shia sect is “Abdullah bin Saba’” while you said that there are many narratives that show that the founder of Shia sect is Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]. I want you talking about it briefly.

Ayatollah Qazwini:

As for this matter, I mention to a narrative and I’ll say other narratives next week. There is a Hadith in “Tafsir Tabari” book and of course “Ibn Taymiyyah” says about “Tafsir Tabari” book:

«وَتَفَاسِیرُهُمْ مُتَضَمِّنَةٌ لِلْمَنْقُولَاتِ الَّتِی یعْتَمَدُ عَلَیهَا فِی التَّفْسِیرِ»

“IbnTaymiyyah” – Minhaj al-Sunnah – vol. 7, p 179

As for the Tafsir of this verse:

(إِنَّ الَّذِینَ آمَنُوا وَ عَمِلُوا الصَّالِحاتِ أُولئِک هُمْ خَیرُ الْبَرِیة)

But those who believe and do good deeds are the best of all creatures.

Sura Al-Bayyina – verse 7

“Tabari” says:

«فقال النبی أنت یا علی وشیعتک»

“Tabari” – Jami’ al-Bayan – vol. 30, p 264

In this narrative prophet Muhammad [PBUH] says to commander of the faithful [AS]: you and your Shias are the clear instance of this verse. {Best of all creatures}

And there is also a narrative in Tafsir “Rooh al-Ma’ani” book written by “Mr. ‘Alusi”, he says:

«فقد أخرج ابن مردویه عن علی کرم الله تعالی وجهه قال: قال لی رسول الله صلّی الله علیه وسلم: «ألم تسمع قول الله تعالی إِنَّ الَّذِینَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحاتِ أُولئِک هُمْ خَیرُ الْبَرِیةِ؟»

Prophet [PBUH] says about this verse of “Quran”:

«هم أنت وشیعتک وموعدی وموعدکم الحوض إذا جثت الأمم للحساب یدعون غرا محجلین»

Dear “Ali”! {The best of the creatures} are you and Shias, our rendezvous is next to “Al-Kawthar” pool {in paradise}, when all the nations come for accounting, you enter the “Al-Kawthar” pool with honor.

“’Alusi” – Rooh al-Ma’ani” – vol. 15, p 432

And “Mr. Shukani” has said this narrative in “Fath al-Ghadir”, he writes:

«وأخرج ابن مردویه عن ابن عباس قال لما نزلت هذه الایة { إن الذین آمنوا وعملوا الصالحات أولئک هم خیر البریة{

“Prophet Muhammad” [PBUH] said: O Ali! You and your Shias will come on the day of resurrection, while you’re pleased of god and god is pleased of you.

“Al-Shukani” – Fath al-Ghadir” – vol. 5, p 477

And this narrative is also written in “Sahaba virtues” book written by “Ahmad bin Hanbal”, vol. 2, p 654:

«فقال رسول الله یا علی أبشر فإنک وأصحابک وشیعتک فی الجنة»

“Messenger of god [PBUH] said: O “Ali”! You and your Shias are in paradise.

And this narrative:

«یا عَلِی أَنْتَ وَأَصْحَابُک فِی الْجَنَّةِ، أَنْتَ وَشِیعَتُک فِی الْجَنَّةِ»

“Al-Tabarani” – Mu’jam al-Awsat- vol. 6, p 354

We have about 40 narratives in this regard quoted by companions of Prophet [PBUH] such as: commander of the faithful Ali, “Umm Salama”, Abu Sa’id Khederi”, “Abu Hurayrah”, “Umar bin Khattab and other, they have quoted that Prophet [PBUH] has said that “Ali” [AS] and his Shias will go to paradise.

Assuming that all the narrators of these narratives are libertine, “Ibn Taymiyayh” believes:

«فَإِنَّ تَعَدُّدَ الطُّرُقِ وَکثْرَتَهَا یقَوِّی بعض‌ها بَعْضًا حَتَّی قَدْ یحْصُلُ الْعِلْمُ بِهَا وَلَوْ کانَ النَّاقِلُونَ فُجَّارًا فُسَّاقًا»

“Ibn Taymiyyah”- Fataawa collection- vol. 18, p 26

Assuming that all these narratives are not authentic, Sunnis believe that if four persons quote a narrative, that narrative will be successive; while some other guys say if two guys say a narrative it’ll be successive. Next week I’ll talk about it comprehensively.

Viewers’ contact:

Viewer: {Abd al-Salam – Sunni}:

Hello, I have a question about the marriage between “Umar bin Khattab” and “Umm Kulthum”. Shias never dare to read the authentic narratives written in their books and it’s the reason showing that caliphs and “Ahl al-Bayt” [AS] were in good terms. I want to know that why “Ayatollah Qazwini” never discusses such things on this channel.


“Mr. abd al-Salam” have you ever watched our program?




We’ve already discussed this question several times.


I didn’t see narratives in your books answering this matter. This matter has been shown by masters from a book written by “Kulayni”. There is narrative in this book in which Imam “Sadiq” [AS] has said that Hadrat “Umm Kulthum” has married “Umar”. I don’t know why you don’t answer these issues.


Which book?


I said the name of the writer, but I don’t know the name of the book.


“Mr. Abd al-Salam”, when you call us and claim some issues, at least tell us the name of the book and tell that such thing is written in that Shia book until we show you that book.


I said that this issue is written in “Al-Kafi” book from “Kulayni”.

Ayatollah Qazwini:

Dear “Abd al-Salam” I give the address of the book to write it. This issue is written in “Al-Kafi” book, vol. 5, p 346 Hadith No. 1 and 2.

«عَلِی بْنُ إِبْرَاهِیمَ عَنْ أَبِیهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِی عُمَیرٍ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ وَ حَمَّادٍ عَنْ زُرَارَةَ عَنْ أَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع»


Do Shias accept this narrative that Hadrat “Umm Kulthum” married “Umar bin Khattab”?!

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

Wait, it’s not written in this narrative that “Umm Kulthum” is the same “Umm Kulthum” that was the daughter of Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS] and the name of Hadrat “Fatimah” hasn’t been said as well. Pay attention, it’s written in narrative:

«فِی تَزْوِیجِ أُمِّ کلْثُومٍ فَقَالَ إِنَّ ذَلِک فَرْجٌ غُصِبْنَاه»

They took her from us by force.

“Kulayni” – Kafi – vol. 5, p 346


Did you get the point?


This narrative proves the saying of Sunnis that daughter of Hadrat “Ali” married Hadrat “Umar”.

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

You didn’t pay attention, it’s just written in narrative «فِی تَزْوِیجِ أُمِّ کلْثُومٍ» and nothing is written in there that if she’s the daughter of Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS]?


So who is this “Umm Kulthum”?!

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

It’s written in your books such as “Nuwi” that “Umm Kulthum” who married “Umar” was the daughter of “Abu-Bakr” who grew up in the house of Hadrat “Ali” [AS].


No, she was the daughter of Hadrat “Ali” [AS].

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

She was the step daughter of Hadrat “Ali” [AS]. Assuming that she was the daughter of Hadrat “Ali” [AS], it’s written in narrative «غُصِبْنَاه», it means that she was taken by force.


Excuse me but this issue isn’t accepted.

Ayatollah “Qazwini”:

Look at the second narrative:

«مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ أَبِی عُمَیرٍ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ عَنْ أَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ: لَمَّا خَطَبَ إِلَیهِ قَالَ لَهُ أَمِیرُ الْمُؤْمِنِینَ إِنَّهَا صَبِیةٌ»

“Muhammad bin abi Umair” quotes from “Hisham bin Salim” and he quotes from “Abi Abd Allah” [AS]: when “Umar” came to propose “Umm Kulthum”, commander of the faithful [AS] said: my daughter is a kid.

And this is what Prophet [PBUH] said to commander of the faithful Ali [AS] when he went proposing Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS] but he let hadrat “Ali” [AS] marring her.

«قَالَ فَلَقِی الْعَبَّاسَ فَقَالَ لَهُ مَا لِی أَ بِی بَأْسٌ» «قَالَ وَ مَا ذَاک» «قَالَ خَطَبْتُ إِلَی ابْنِ أَخِیک فَرَدَّنِی» «أَمَا وَ اللَّهِ لَأُعَوِّرَنَّ زَمْزَمَ وَ لَا أَدَعُ لَکمْ مَکرُمَةً إِلَّا هَدَمْتُهَا وَ لَأُقِیمَنَّ عَلَیهِ شَاهِدَینِ بِأَنَّهُ سَرَقَ وَ لَأَقْطَعَنَّ یمِینَهُ» «فَأَتَاهُ الْعَبَّاسُ فَأَخْبَرَهُ وَ سَأَلَهُ أَنْ یجْعَلَ الْأَمْرَ إِلَیهِ» «فَجَعَلَهُ إِلَیه»

“Umar bin Khattab” came to “Abbas” and said: do I have any problem? “Abbas” said: how come? “Umar bin Khattab” said: I proposed the daughter of Hadrat “Ali” [AS] but they rejected me. Swear by god I’ll destroy any virtue that “Bani Hashim” has. I’ll bring two guys as witness until they commit perjury that “Ali bin abi Talib” has robbed and then I’ll cut his hand off. “Abbas” went to commander of the faithful [AS] and told him but he didn’t accept and “Abbas” asked him to leave this matter to him and hadrat “Ali” [AS] accepted.

“Kulayni” – Kafi- vol. 5, p 346

This is what is written in Shia book, if you have another narrative in your mind tell me to show you.


I hadn’t ever seen this narrative, this matter has become so interesting to me and I should refer to other book searching in this regard.


As it’s written in narrative and master explained, “Umm Kulthum” married to “Umar” but it’s not clear if she’s the same “Umm Kulthum” that was the daughter of Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS]?

Secondly if she’s even the daughter of Hadrat “Fatimah” [AS], there are two narratives in our books that show us what’s happened.


I’m not literate a lot in this regard and I should search about it.


It’s fine, you search and call us again asking your questions if you want.


Thank you.

Ayatollah Qazwini:

You’re welcome, we’re proud of you Sunnis calling us and speak your heart and defend your beliefs and challenge our discussion, we welcome such discussions.

We’re ready to continue our discussions several hours until Sunnis like “Mr. Abd al-Salam” call us and discuss such issues. We’ll explain these issues to dears by saying the number of page and Hadith.


Thank you “Mr. Abd al-Salam” and goodbye. Thank you to all dear viewers for watching “Habl al-Matin” program and sending message to us, goodbye.


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