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Is it true that Abu Hanife considered the remark of Umar as the remark of Satan?
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Is it true that Abu Hanife considered the remark of Umar as the remark of Satan?

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Answer

 

Some narrations have been narrated in this area with valid document. Abdullah Bin Ahmad Bin Hanbel has written in the book ' ' Al-Sene ' '

 

 

حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو الْفَضْلِ، نا مُسْلِمُ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ، نا عَبْدُ الْوَارِثِ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، قَالَ: نا سَعِيدٌ، قَالَ: «جَلَسْتُ إِلَى أَبِي حَنِيفَةَ بِمَكَّةَ فَذَكَرَ شَيْئًا فَقَالَ لَهُ رَجُلٌ: رَوَى عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ كَذَا وَكَذَا، قَالَ أَبُو حَنِيفَةَ: ذَاكَ قَوْلُ الشَّيْطَانِ، وَقَالَ لَهُ آخَرُ أَلَيْسَ يُرْوَى عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ (ص): أَفْطَرَ الْحَاجِمُ وَالْمَحْجُومُ، فَقَالَ: هَذَا سَجْعٌ فَغَضِبْتُ وَقُلْتُ إِنَّ هَذَا مَجْلِسٌ لا أَعُودُ إِلَيْهِ وَمَضَيْتُ وَتَرَكْتُهُ "

Saeid says ' ' I had sat in the meeting of Abu Hanife and some issue was raised. A person said to him ' ' Umar Bin Khatab has said such and such remarks ' '. Abu Hanife said ' ' this is the remark of Satan ' '. Someone else said ' ' isn 't it has been narrated from the messenger of God (peace of Allah be upon him and his descendants) ' ' a person that cupped and a person that was cupped fasted ' ' (the false of both of them is not accepted) ' '. Then Abu Hanife said ' ' this is alliteration (rhythm and rhyme). I became angry and said ' ' I will never come back to this meeting and I left him ' '.    

 

Al-Sheibani, Abdullah Ben Ahmad Ben Hanbal (died in 290 hejra), Al-Sonat, v 1 p 227, hadith 403, Researched by: D. Muhammad Saeed Salem Al-Ghahtani, Published by: Dar Ibn Al-Ghayem, Al-Demam, First Edition, 1406 hejira

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Analyzing the document of the narration

 

Abdullah Bin Ahmad Bin Hanbel:

 

Zahabi has written

 

س عبد الله بن أحمد بن محمد بن حنبل الامام الحافظ الحجة أبو عبد الرحمن محدث العراق ولد امام العلماء أبي عبد الله الشيباني المروزي الأصل البغدادي.

Al-Zahabi Al-Shafei, Shams Al-Din Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ben Ahmad Ben Osman (died in 748 hejira), Tazkerat Al-Hefaz, v 2 p 665, no 685, Published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie, Beirut, First Edition

 

Hatem Bin Al-Leis

 

Zahabi has written about him in the book ' ' Alam Al-Nobla ' '

 

حاتم بن الليث . الحافظ المكثر الثقة أبو الفضل البغدادي الجوهري

Al-Zahabi Al-Shafei, Shams Al-Din Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ben Ahmad Ben Osman (died in 748 hejira), Seir Alam Al-Nobala, v 12 p 519, Researched by: Shoaib Al-Arnowt, Muhammad Naeem Al-Araghsusi, Published by: Resalat Institute, Beirut, Ninth Edition, 1413 hejira

 

Abu Yala has written in the book ' ' Tabaghat Al-Hanabele ' '

 

حاتم بن الليث بن الحارث بن عبدالرحمن أبو الفضل الجوهري سمع عبدالله بن موسى وسعيد بن داود وإسماعيل بن أبي أويس وإمامنا أحمد فيما ذكره أبو محمد الخلال وكان ثقة ثبتا متقنا حافظا .

Al-Baghdadi Al-Hanbali, Abu Al-Hossein Muhammad Ben Abi Yali Ben Al-Fora (died in 521 hejira), Tabaghat Al-Hanabelat, v 1 p 148, no 195, Researched by: Muhammad Hamed Al-Faghi, Published by: Dar Al-Marefat, Beirut

 

Khatib Baghdadi has written

 

حاتم بن الليث بن الحارث بن عبد الرحمن أبو الفضل الجوهري ... وكان ثقة ثبتا متقنا حافظا.

 

Al-Baghdadi, Abubakr Ahmad Ben Ali Ben Thabet Al-Khatib (died in 463 hejira), v 8 p 245, no 4346,Tarikh Baghdad, Published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie, Beirut

 

Moslem Bin Ibrahim Al-Azedi (died in 222 A.H.):

 

He is one of narrators of Bokhari, Moslem and other Sehah Sete

 

 مسلم بن إبراهيم الأزدي الفراهيدي بالفاء أبو عمرو البصري ثقة مأمون مكثر عمي بأخرة من صغار التاسعة مات سنة اثنتين وعشرين وهو أكبر شيخ لأبي داود ع

Al-Asghalani Al-Shafei, Ahmad Ben Ali Ben Hajar Abu Al-Fazl (died in 852 hejira), Taghrib Al-Tahzib, v 1 p 529, no 6616, Researched by: Muhammad Avame, Published by: Dar Al-Rashid, Syria, First Edition, 1406- 1986

 

 Abd Al-Vares Bin Saeid (died in 180 A.H.):

 

He is one of narrators Bokhari, Moslem and other Sehah Sete.

 

عبد الوارث بن سعيد بن ذكوان التميمي مولاهم البصري التنوري أبو عبيدة الحافظ عن أيوب وأبي التياح ويحيى البكاء وعنه ابنه عبد الصمد وأبو معمر المقعد ومسدد مقرئ فصيح مفوه ثبت صالح لكنه قدري مات 18 ع

Al-Zahabi Al-Shafei, Shams Al-Din Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ben Ahmad Ben Osman (died in 748 hejira), Al-Kashef Fi Marefat Min Lah Ravayat Fi Al-Kotob Al-Sonat, v 1 p 673, no 3510, Researched by: Muhammad Avame, Published by: Dar Al-Gheblat lel Thaghafe Al-Eslamiye, Olov Institute, Jadde, First Edition, 1413 hejira-1992

 

Saeid Bin Abi Arube:

 

سعيد بن أبي عروبة مهران اليشكري مولاهم أبو النضر البصري ثقة حافظ له تصانيف كثير التدليس واختلط وكان من أثبت الناس في قنادة من السادسة مات سنة ست وقيل سبع وخمسين.

Taghrib Al-Tahzib, v 1 p 239, no 2365

 

Hence, the document of this narration is completely valid and all of its narrators are Sunni dignitaries and Saghat.

 

Khatib Baghdadi and Ibn Juzi Hanbeli have narrated this narration with the following document

 

أخبرنا أبو بكر البرقاني قال قرأت على محمد بن محمود المحمودي بمرو حدثكم محمد بن علي الحافظ حدثنا إسحاق بن منصور أخبرنا عبد الصمد عن أبيه قَالَ: ذكر لأَبِي حَنِيفَةَ قَوْلُ النَّبِيِّ (ص) «أَفْطَرَ الْحَاجِمُ وَالْمَحْجُومُ»، فَقَالَ: هَذَا سَجْعٌ، وَذكر لَهُ قَوْلٌ قَالَهُ عُمَرُ، فَقَالَ: هَذَا قَوْلُ شَيْطَانٍ.

Ibn Al-Jozi Al-Hanbali, Jamal Al-Din Abu Al-Faraj Abd Al-Rahman Ben Ali Ben Muhammad (died in 597 hejira), Al-Montazem Fi Tarikh Al-Moluk Al-Omam, v 8 p 136, Published by: Dar Al-Sader, Beirut, First Edition, 1358

 

Al-Baghdadi, Abubakr Ahmad Ben Ali Ben Thabet Al-Khatib (died in 463 hejira), v 13p 403- 404,Tarikh Baghdad, Published by: Dar Al-Kotob Al-Elmie, Beirut

 

According to this narration, Abu Hanife and Naeiman Bin Sobat considered the remark of Umar as the remark of Satan. But what was his meaning? Why did he say that? We leave its analysis and answer to his followers.

 

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